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		<title>By: Amy T</title>
		<link>http://www.anti9to5guide.com/2007/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-18868</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tricky topic, huh? I hadn&#039;t seen the thread when I posted my piece on Escape Artist about the support I&#039;ve received from my husband, which makes the timing pretty spooky. (And this is hardly a first--sometimes I think Michelle might scatter her leftover, unwanted brain cells in my own head at the end of the day.)  :)

Anyway, what I want to clarify (hopefully without stirring the pot) is that  just because a freelancer is married doesn&#039;t mean she is supported--financially or otherwise. The first time I tried to freelance, I faced a lot of uncertainty and resistance from my husband. This time around, we have played all kind of financial games to keep this freelance endeavor &quot;my&quot; project, and feeling successful. But to an outsider I am getting a fat ride on his paycheck. Marriage is really f*%$ing complicated, and it&#039;s hard for anyone to ever really know what&#039;s going on inside.

Bottom line: Let&#039;s be freelancers first! That&#039;s why we visit this site in the first place, right?

This blog is fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tricky topic, huh? I hadn&#8217;t seen the thread when I posted my piece on Escape Artist about the support I&#8217;ve received from my husband, which makes the timing pretty spooky. (And this is hardly a first&#8211;sometimes I think Michelle might scatter her leftover, unwanted brain cells in my own head at the end of the day.)  <img src='http://www.anti9to5guide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, what I want to clarify (hopefully without stirring the pot) is that  just because a freelancer is married doesn&#8217;t mean she is supported&#8211;financially or otherwise. The first time I tried to freelance, I faced a lot of uncertainty and resistance from my husband. This time around, we have played all kind of financial games to keep this freelance endeavor &#8220;my&#8221; project, and feeling successful. But to an outsider I am getting a fat ride on his paycheck. Marriage is really f*%$ing complicated, and it&#8217;s hard for anyone to ever really know what&#8217;s going on inside.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Let&#8217;s be freelancers first! That&#8217;s why we visit this site in the first place, right?</p>
<p>This blog is fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Start blogging about them. That should do the trick. ;)

Hear ya about family woes. I&#039;ve begun teasing them gently about the &quot;when are you going to get a real job?&quot; years. They deny ever saying it, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Start blogging about them. That should do the trick. <img src='http://www.anti9to5guide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hear ya about family woes. I&#8217;ve begun teasing them gently about the &#8220;when are you going to get a real job?&#8221; years. They deny ever saying it, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely true, Michelle. Judgements come from all sides. It&#039;s sad really. I also have worked at phasing certain people out of the circle because they just don&#039;t understand my life choices. Since I can&#039;t phase out the inlaws I just opt for shrugging it off and changing the subject. It does burst my bubble at times, but there isn&#039;t really much I can do about it. Unless anyone has advice out there for phasing out in-laws... just kidding... sort of ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely true, Michelle. Judgements come from all sides. It&#8217;s sad really. I also have worked at phasing certain people out of the circle because they just don&#8217;t understand my life choices. Since I can&#8217;t phase out the inlaws I just opt for shrugging it off and changing the subject. It does burst my bubble at times, but there isn&#8217;t really much I can do about it. Unless anyone has advice out there for phasing out in-laws&#8230; just kidding&#8230; sort of <img src='http://www.anti9to5guide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.anti9to5guide.com/2007/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-18737</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing: The reason I harped on the whole &quot;stop giving single women&quot; shit thing in my original post is because the person giving me lip wouldn&#039;t have the luxury to have a perfect house and a life that didn&#039;t involve working for an employer if she did not have the financial support of her spouse. Again, I realize this is not the case for all married people, just this person. Not trying to start a singles/married war.

But I totally agree with you, Lauren: This isn&#039;t any different than women being damned if they do stay home with the kids or damned if they go to work in an office. Someone will always judge. Maybe we all just need thicker skin? Or to totally shut those people out? Not sure what the answer is. But I think as long as people will be people, we will continue to get our panties in a twist over something insensitive or shallow that someone else says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing: The reason I harped on the whole &#8220;stop giving single women&#8221; shit thing in my original post is because the person giving me lip wouldn&#8217;t have the luxury to have a perfect house and a life that didn&#8217;t involve working for an employer if she did not have the financial support of her spouse. Again, I realize this is not the case for all married people, just this person. Not trying to start a singles/married war.</p>
<p>But I totally agree with you, Lauren: This isn&#8217;t any different than women being damned if they do stay home with the kids or damned if they go to work in an office. Someone will always judge. Maybe we all just need thicker skin? Or to totally shut those people out? Not sure what the answer is. But I think as long as people will be people, we will continue to get our panties in a twist over something insensitive or shallow that someone else says.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.anti9to5guide.com/2007/07/04/independence-day/comment-page-1/#comment-18736</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, great point re whether it&#039;s a married/not married or freelancing/working 9-5 issue. I think judgments are lobbed over both fences; I&#039;ve certainly experienced both in my life. Without getting into a full-on dissection of the incident that prompted my post, I felt I was getting shit from an acquaintance for my career/lifestyle, not my choice to be single, which I attempted to make clear in the original post. But maybe it wasn&#039;t clear... oh well. For the record, I don&#039;t hang out with any smug marrieds. ;) 

And I do have to say, as I&#039;ve gotten deeper and deeper into this freelancing/writing life, those who don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; my career/worklife and aren&#039;t supportive of it are easing further and further out of my social strata. There simply isn&#039;t the time. Hell, I once dumped a guy who said I had to choose between freelancing and him. EASY CHOICE! Still, every once in a while, it&#039;s curious to see how &quot;the other half&quot; lives, so we do wind up occasionally in the company of those who don&#039;t entirely get us... and sometimes snide comments arise. I consider it all grist for the writing mill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, great point re whether it&#8217;s a married/not married or freelancing/working 9-5 issue. I think judgments are lobbed over both fences; I&#8217;ve certainly experienced both in my life. Without getting into a full-on dissection of the incident that prompted my post, I felt I was getting shit from an acquaintance for my career/lifestyle, not my choice to be single, which I attempted to make clear in the original post. But maybe it wasn&#8217;t clear&#8230; oh well. For the record, I don&#8217;t hang out with any smug marrieds. <img src='http://www.anti9to5guide.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And I do have to say, as I&#8217;ve gotten deeper and deeper into this freelancing/writing life, those who don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; my career/worklife and aren&#8217;t supportive of it are easing further and further out of my social strata. There simply isn&#8217;t the time. Hell, I once dumped a guy who said I had to choose between freelancing and him. EASY CHOICE! Still, every once in a while, it&#8217;s curious to see how &#8220;the other half&#8221; lives, so we do wind up occasionally in the company of those who don&#8217;t entirely get us&#8230; and sometimes snide comments arise. I consider it all grist for the writing mill.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that your &quot;friend&quot; is way out of line, but I don&#039;t think its a married/single issue. I am married and freelancing while my husband works a &quot;regular job.&quot;  I don&#039;t have any children yet. My house is not perfect by any means because I spend a great deal of my time at my laptop writing, researching, finding work. Problem is that my inlaws still consider me &quot;between jobs&quot; and tell me constantly that &quot;something will come along.&quot; They don&#039;t think that what I do is work because I don&#039;t go to an office or have a boss or get all my checks from the same company. 

I guess my point is that women can&#039;t win. They stay home and they are soccer moms, berated for choosing family over carreer or they continue working and are chastised for not being &quot;maternal.&quot; I think that the most important thing is that women do what they want. Isn&#039;t that what it was all about in the first place? 

And lastly... if your married friends fall into the &quot;smug marrieds&quot; category, why are you friends with them? Friends are friends, married or otherwise. You should treat eachother as such and just be supportive of one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that your &#8220;friend&#8221; is way out of line, but I don&#8217;t think its a married/single issue. I am married and freelancing while my husband works a &#8220;regular job.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t have any children yet. My house is not perfect by any means because I spend a great deal of my time at my laptop writing, researching, finding work. Problem is that my inlaws still consider me &#8220;between jobs&#8221; and tell me constantly that &#8220;something will come along.&#8221; They don&#8217;t think that what I do is work because I don&#8217;t go to an office or have a boss or get all my checks from the same company. </p>
<p>I guess my point is that women can&#8217;t win. They stay home and they are soccer moms, berated for choosing family over carreer or they continue working and are chastised for not being &#8220;maternal.&#8221; I think that the most important thing is that women do what they want. Isn&#8217;t that what it was all about in the first place? </p>
<p>And lastly&#8230; if your married friends fall into the &#8220;smug marrieds&#8221; category, why are you friends with them? Friends are friends, married or otherwise. You should treat eachother as such and just be supportive of one another.</p>
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		<title>By: heymarci</title>
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		<dc:creator>heymarci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent post, michelle...and great way to link your book to &quot;independence day.&#039; someone just sent me the book &quot;the art of being a woman alone,&quot; which i&#039;ve yet to crack. but it&#039;s next on the reading list and based on the cover copy alone (and the appealing author website) i&#039;m just about ready to send it to every alone-and-thriving woman i know. i&#039;ll report back once i&#039;m done (or get to it on my blog). but thought you&#039;d want to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent post, michelle&#8230;and great way to link your book to &#8220;independence day.&#8217; someone just sent me the book &#8220;the art of being a woman alone,&#8221; which i&#8217;ve yet to crack. but it&#8217;s next on the reading list and based on the cover copy alone (and the appealing author website) i&#8217;m just about ready to send it to every alone-and-thriving woman i know. i&#8217;ll report back once i&#8217;m done (or get to it on my blog). but thought you&#8217;d want to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Goodman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for the record, dear sister, *i* used to be the clean one. (!) remember how i&#039;d help you clean your nastyass room after the parents had given you an ultimatum? &quot;first you bring the dirty dishes growing mold under your bed to the kitchen, then you put your stinky clothes in the laundry hamper, then you put your books and games away, etc. etc.&quot; bwaaahaaahaaa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for the record, dear sister, *i* used to be the clean one. (!) remember how i&#8217;d help you clean your nastyass room after the parents had given you an ultimatum? &#8220;first you bring the dirty dishes growing mold under your bed to the kitchen, then you put your stinky clothes in the laundry hamper, then you put your books and games away, etc. etc.&#8221; bwaaahaaahaaa!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhebe (Michelle's mom)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhebe (Michelle's mom)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You go girls!  Your &quot;friend&quot; will never get it. Unfortunately the words you write Michelle still need repeating and good for you for doing so.  

I thought in the 70&#039;s, while marching for the &quot;right&quot; to say and live the life I chose as a woman, people would understand in the future.  Alas, many of us are still preaching to the women who are trying to follow someone else&#039;s plan.  It took me a long time to break with some of the last conventions that held me back also.

I am so proud of you Michelle, and Naomi too, for marching to your own drummer as well as trying to educate those who are still trying to live up to &quot;other&#039;s&quot; ideas of what life should be.

Follow your dreams women at any age.  It is never to late.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You go girls!  Your &#8220;friend&#8221; will never get it. Unfortunately the words you write Michelle still need repeating and good for you for doing so.  </p>
<p>I thought in the 70&#8242;s, while marching for the &#8220;right&#8221; to say and live the life I chose as a woman, people would understand in the future.  Alas, many of us are still preaching to the women who are trying to follow someone else&#8217;s plan.  It took me a long time to break with some of the last conventions that held me back also.</p>
<p>I am so proud of you Michelle, and Naomi too, for marching to your own drummer as well as trying to educate those who are still trying to live up to &#8220;other&#8217;s&#8221; ideas of what life should be.</p>
<p>Follow your dreams women at any age.  It is never to late.</p>
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		<title>By: naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 01:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i would say to your &quot;friend,&quot; is that you&#039;ve been a slovenly pigpen since we lived under our parent&#039;s roof, with a housekeeper! maybe not as messy as i was, but well, you get the picture</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i would say to your &#8220;friend,&#8221; is that you&#8217;ve been a slovenly pigpen since we lived under our parent&#8217;s roof, with a housekeeper! maybe not as messy as i was, but well, you get the picture</p>
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